Students: (----) My guest today is YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan, master of KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. and white tantric yoga. It’s an honor to have you on our show today sir.

YB: It’s my pleasure.

Student: Thank you, first question Siri SahibSiri Sahib Sword. you are master of the yoga how does one become a master of yoga?

YB: It is very simple and to be very honest it’s very American this is a land of lot of opportunities, it is a land of where anybody with nothing can become everything and if you understand that at physical level then you have to also understand that at mental level and you have to understand that at spiritual level, it’s the combination of three forces soul, mind and body in absolute harmony working to achieve to excel and yoga is a union which brings the proportionate understanding between soul, the spirit, the power behind you, the mind, the computer which works all your figure out what is what and the body which is the identity and if three can get together success is guaranteed, it’s so sure that doesn’t matter what the environments are, doesn’t matter what the surrounding are you shall win it is win game and yoga is to win, yoga is to unite with Infinity and the win of yoga is positive, but what is happening in America we are just starting it we are trying to just begin with and I understand there are lot of situations where we are not sure whether somebody is real and somebody is not.

And I came to this country to give people the science and not the subject, some people just think yoga is for health and exercise some people think yoga is just meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. and some people think yoga is just spiritual and being spaced out the three are wrong that’s not yoga it is just like if somebody say this is New Mexico and somebody say this, this town is New Mexico that’s not true, New Mexico is a huge state beautiful state it’s a land of enchantment, there are different people, there are different cultures, there are different relaxation here, there are different kind of air, there are different kind of sky here and people who live in New York they think they live in America and we who live in New Mexico they think, we think they are living in a jungle, in a jungle of steel and we are living in a paradise of United States but both are wrong because New York is New York and Santa Fe is Santa Fe, New Mexico is New Mexico and New York city is New York but you have to experience putting New York, New Mexico and all other fifty states that makes America I mean to say it’s the layman way I explaining to you putting everything together and uniting it to Infinity so that your identity becomes powerful and your identical identity which is your subconscious drag or demon or devil what you want to call it which eats you up which distracts you, which create duality, which makes hole in the bottom of you which brings you the misery, the pain, dissatisfaction emptiness eliminate and as a real person you are on the top of the world and that is what KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. is.

KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. is elevating through all the chakras your total sensitivity so that your radiance can be perfect so not that you have to go after things, things should come to you, if you go after two hundred things you go after two hundred things you will go crazy and that’s why everybody is crazy that’s why twenty percent of Americans are lunatics and that’s our national study I am not making it out and I think that study did a lot of favor I think fifty percent of us are loonies and we are running after things making no sense what I am trying to explain is don’t run after things be so magnetic let your psyche be so great let things come to you, why New Mexico is a land of enchantment, people come here in summer you don’t have a place here why that is so because it’s a very good place goodness attract goods and God is nothing but a extra O if you put one extra O in God it becomes good and good attracts goods theory is simple.

Student: Speaking of theory KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. is a science.

YB: It is.

Student: It is a science and there has been recent reports in medical literature about subject such as (?) second, third and fourth messenger systems in the brain where one hormone may stimulate another hormone will stimulate another hormone, they have the whole glandular system balanced.

YB: It is,

Student: (----)

YB: It is called neuro computerized communicative system creativity of different hemisphere in combination of creatic sensibility now I am translating the older science into modern English when I was teaching applications of KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. in the medical science through U C L A I was telling them that we have twelve glands and glands are the guardians of the health and this little thymus which you think it is a stone and little pineal which we think it is a stone in the brain are useless but I was telling them they are the most important glands and one doctor told me and he said, he said, “How you feel after practicing for fifty years when I am going to retire in the science and I have myself worked for twenty years I have to believe you.”

I said, you don’t have to and I don’t want you but how you think I am going to believe which has been told to me from five thousand year onward each time that thymus controls the radiation of the blood chemistry and if the radiation of the blood chemistry is not right you are not prone from cancer you are liable to be canceric and if thymus does not radiate properly and its impulsation is not right which is a stone it’s going to do things to you, you don’t want, all right take it your pineal, pineal radiation cycle wise and anti cycle wise controls the pituitary, pituitary is the master gland controls everything and pineal radiation that little stone like a grain controls the entire neuro process and people don’t recognize that in the brain there are no nervous system not at all now you are a doctor tell me there is a nervous system in the brain?”

Student: We thought that there is a nervous system in the brain.

YB: What about this neuro chemicals?

Student: It’s a chemical system.

YB: Well, you want to say what you want to say but five thousands years ago things have already been said.

Student: (----)

YB: It’s very difficult for you as a MD with the western science to believe that there is a allopathic, homeopathic, naturopathic and Greek system, there is Ayurvedic system and there is, the cell salts and all… homeopathic system and these are five, six systems to heal people and when I say herbs heal doctor diagnoses and God cures people think I am mistake I am not it’s a simple reality and for you, you have been taught to diagnose the system the way you have been taught and what the way I have learnt is that diagnostic manipulation can give you factual call from the body where it is hurting, all right first signal body give you that something is wrong is through the pain.

Student: Right.

YB: All right?

Student: Right.

YB: First call the mind gives you is through the pain, physical pain and mental pain and first call which the soul gives you is through spiritual pain, pain is the signal is that right.

Student: Yes sir.

YB: Can you deny it as MD?

Student: No.

YB: Okay you can’t good, you are,

Student: (----)

YB: You are a good MD.

Student: Thanks.

YB: That’s what it is but what I am asking you is there is a remedy to remedy the pain and not sharing the pain and putting on others not continuing the pain and not stopping it, not ignoring the spiritual pain working on the mental pain ignoring the mental pain working on the physical pain working only the physical pain ignoring the mental pain totally denying the spiritual pain and then you come out and say I am a mess I don’t want to live, the world is shit and all those dirty words why, you don’t have to that’s why I say God is He, she and it, Hesheit don’t call it shit it’s a dirty word don’t use it, it’s not required God made you in His image, God made you perfect God is perfect life is a most beautiful gift, body is most complicated self healing thing give poor body a chance mind is vast as heavens give it a chance, but if your ego get stuck with emotions and feelings then you create hell for you but if your ego equally get stuck word is equally proportionate sigma Aa is equal to sigma Aa understand it’s higher mathematics okay well if your ego equally gets stuck with your intelligence and with your consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , with your consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. and intelligence it can balance out every emotion and feeling you are a sage, you are perfect, you are success.

What is happening now is people are successful in making money and they are unhappy because money cannot buy happiness, it cannot buy health and it cannot buy home, ultimate home, it can buy this (?) on the earth everything it can buy people feel if I buy money I can buy health no you cannot buy health, you can buy the best doctor, you can go to the best hospital, you can buy the best herb, you can do, you can buy everything which earth can give you, you cannot buy what mind can give you, you can go to best neuro surgeon, psychiatrist, psychologist spiritual healer, healer, fake, demy fake, quake, demy do whatever you want to do that money can buy you but it is not guaranteed that you can come out on the right side of it, if your spirit is denied by you then spirit won’t come and talk to you.

If your wife is denied and ignored she will run away from your house, if your soul is denied and not talk to she will run away from you she will live there but she will live as a strange wife, battered wife, you won’t have a happy body, happy mind because you don’t have a happy soul, if in this place my wife wants to create a trauma unwelcome everybody, abuse everybody, do you think people will come and visit me same way soul is married to you as a source of strength, mind is married to you as a, as a genius strength, genius strength is mind and body is given to you to experience through the five TattvasTattvas A category of cosmic existence; a stage of reality or being; a "thatness" of differentiated qualities. In total there are 36 tattvas. Each wave of differentiation has its own rules and structure. The final five tattvas are called the gross elements and have the phasic qualities and relationships of ether, air, fire, water, and earth. ether, air, fire, water, earth all the essence, all the juices and with the cup of divine that is my existence my ego, my Id I have to drink it and how to drink all that? How to balance all that? How to create all that the science, which can do it, it’s called KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. , well explained.

Student: Perfectly.

YB: Well it’s the understanding of MD is perfectly it must be a good day.

Student: How is that different yoga sets have different effects?

YB: Yoga sets are done to bring balance to the glandular system so at what time which glandular system we are combing and how we are creating that mixture that recipe that’s what a yoga set is, yoga set is not what you want, what your mood is, yoga set is a very delicate admixture of a science for a certain person for a certain reason.

Student: (----)

YB: Yeah that day girl came to me and she was just upside down and she said, “I have gone to every doctor, I have gone to every person there is no hope.”

I said, “What you mean?”

She said, “Everything is hopeless.”

I said, "Wait, wait, wait take this paper, take this pen, write hopelessness.”

She wrote hopeless.

I said, "Now cut down a line between hope and less.” She drew a line between hope and less.

I said, "Well, if that means hope but less but there is a hope.”

She said, "Yeah there is a hope.”

And then why you say then hopeless mean nothing? There is not such thing as nothing, there is everything similarly how you reach it and then I told her that she is a chronic mental depresso-psychopath. You know I am a PhD in, I am a doctor in psychology too, I didn’t want to lay that number on her, but I just say a very technical word and she said how you know I have been with this treatment, I have been with that treatment, I have with that much.

I said, “It’s just out of experience, don’t you think I can experience? And my experience to tell me what is going on?”

She said, “Okay now what should I do?”

I said, “Not much this is a one exercise you have to do and this is a one little care you have to take care.”

She said, “What that will do?”

I said, “That will change the chemistry of your blood from to be anemic to be very strong and you can consult your own doctor and find it out that you will need a care you are little anemic and with this exercise you will stimulate all the glandular system to work but when you stimulate the glandular system you need lot of the healthy blood if you can put two together I hope you will come out of it, because there is nothing hopeless, there is a less hope.”

She is fantastic, now she feels I am on the top of the world.

I said, “This is also emotion.” That day you were in the bottom of the earth that was emotion now you are on top of the earth that’s emotion just be grateful have a gratitude that you came out of the mud in a very short time, little care, little work, little help can put the body in the best.

Student: Sir, today you are teaching white tantric yoga.

YB: Ah, ah,

Student: How does that compare with KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. . What is white tantric yoga?

YB: White Tantric, red Tantric and black Tantric there are three Tantric yogas, okay there are three energies perpendicular, parallel and diagonal all Tantric yoga deals with diagonal energy it’s a lever system uplifting that’s a diagonal, diagonal force it uplifts you, you put a bar under a heaviest train you can move it, you can roll it between you and you there is a conflict, you as identity to me, you are as identity, your identical of identity which are your emotions, your feeling, your experience, your wishes, your imagery, your wants, your dreams, you have been taught, you have been made to do so, you have said so which you think you are there is a list from here to Santa Fe twenty two miles I can cover the entire road with my list and that’s your identical identity.

You have identity doctor DharmaDharma A path of righteous living. It is both an ideal of virtue and a path of action that is infused with clear awareness and comprised of actions that are the soul in total synchrony with the universe. It is action without reaction or karma. Singh Khalsa, that’s it and that’s what how people know you and people believe you then with some people you are a friend, with some people you are enemy, with some people you are good man, some people you are bad man then those plus and minus that’s, that’s all it is but actually if your identical identity or subconscious identity becomes more powerful than your identity you will have a very unbalanced mind and life behavior and that will give you set back what we will do in this Tantric course as yesterday we did, we built in their powerful radiance of the arc line and their third center which balances plus and minuses together that means that their subconscious body which you lay it privately, secretly, which talks to you not to me you talk to me and just identically it talks to you became relax little lesser and your identity became good how you feel after good and tomorrow it will be better and day after it will be best and that is when we work on subconscious identity and reduce it we give the power to the identity and that is what white Tantric is, red Tantric is you stimulate yourself sexually but you don’t perform sexuality and you over come it, over come it and lot of people this over come it is not practicing they say, go now the theory with that is that, misplacement whatever you desire do it well I asked somebody I said, “You really honestly believe that if you have to go and kill your mother and that’s your desire you are going to do it?”

He said, “That’s what I have been told.”

I said, “You are wrong, you can’t do that you will be arrested, it’s not morally right, it’s not humanly right, it’s not ethically right.” Human has to control his wrong desire purse the right desire and if you are going to say every desire is okay but you are lunatic, you have been mislead you are not rightly being taught so please go to a psychiatrist and I sent that guy to a psychiatrist. I don’t know whether he is gone or not it’s his problem but I did ask him because he needed medical help, he needed medical consultation and similarly I feel that black magic or black Tantric is to go into personality of a person and try to control that personality but people who try to control personality forget it that they are also tied in that so it’s a very heavy trip, it’s very dishonest trip that’s why to make a distinction I said, “White Tantric.” I don’t want to relate to red Tantric or black Tantric I don’t want therefore I just separated it.

So let the world know that we are not in their shoes all we want to do is to remove the subconscious block of the people so that they can have a conscious life and when you have a conscious life you are guaranteed to be happy and in 3HO we guarantee to be healthy, happy and holy, anybody who has nine holes is holy, anybody who is intelligently and consciously living is going to be happy and everybody who is going to take care of the glands and glands are the guardian of the health is going to be healthy to us it is very simple for people it’s very complicated and that’s what the pain is about but we are going our way and people are coming wrong and somewhere there will be union yoga then people will value this as a science because my trip in this country is not to create students but through students create teachers so that the science which I know in India could live here forever that’s my purpose, because I saw this western going to India spending lot of dollars and learning nothing.

I came here so that they not have to spend those dollars and they learn here, practice here and go along with it so this great science of thousands of years, which can evaluate your mind body and soul into one unisonness of success should be yours. I have my books success psycho, executive mind, book on businesses, book on woman, book on man to man, man within the man, the blocks which men cannot talk, you know all these scientific books are there for people who have the mind to study them, who want to educate themselves I am not interested in people who just want to a live a emotional commotional or a neurotic life I want them to have it that’s very good for them but not for me I want people to self heal, self grow and self experience because I believe without self there is nothing and you have to be selfish to know yourself and I am providing people technique so that they know who they are and then can decide what they want, you don’t have to decide what your parents want, you don’t have to decide what your neighbors want, you don’t have to decide because you should decide for which you are willing to pay the bill love does not pay bill it only takes you to dinner and then it can take you to bed that’s not love tomorrow there is another day and those who do not care for tomorrow, do not care for today have not taken care of yesterday.

I want people to have such a computer, this mental computer which you call is brain to work so excellence that you can know the consequences of every sequence so that you don’t have to get and face the sequence like a dead end and that’s oh my God I am dead no that’s not needed you have to first understand the sequence and then go for the consequences don’t get into consequences and start crying that is the pain I want to eliminate in human beings and that’s what science is about, that’s what KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. is about and that’s what this talk and the show is about if you like it have it, if you don’t just watch it and forget about it as simple as that.

Student: Thank you very much YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan for being our guest today and (?) I am Dr. DharmaDharma A path of righteous living. It is both an ideal of virtue and a path of action that is infused with clear awareness and comprised of actions that are the soul in total synchrony with the universe. It is action without reaction or karma. Singh Khalsa for New Mexico weekend (?).

YB: You can smile,

(Students laughter)

YB: Thank you very much.

Student: (----)

YB: Yeah I would like to have one big good decaffaine.

Students: (----)

YB: Um?

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YB: (?)

Students: Do you want to go for another twenty minutes sir?

YB: Oh let us, what, what subject is that?

Students: (----)

YB: You can ask question now okay.

Students: (----)

YB: Anything he can ask I am not upset about it.

Students: (----)

YB: Watch it.

Students: (----)

YB: That’s beautiful, it’s a good document isn’t it?

Student: Very good (?)

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YB: For stress because stress comes out of complicated life, with simple life it will go away that’s about the balance, and to let the stress go through a complicated method is to make, more stress and that’s where everybody is wrong.

Students: (----)

YB: Easily,

Student: Easily,

YB: Easily.

Student: (----)

YB: Thank you,

Student: (----)

YB: Thank you.

Student: (----)

YB: You are very shy go ahead with the question first to begin with.

Student: Okay. In the (?) talking about the GurdwaraGurdwara Literally the door of the Guru; traditional place where Sikh worship services are held. and you were saying (?) grandfather’s ethics. This was a place where you don’t go to offer prayer, you go to receive it. Can you explain (?) please?

YB: The problem is that everybody has been told to go to a church and a place like where they can worship meditate and to give their, give, it’s wrong, logically and rationally it is wrong actually to these places where you call is God houses you go there to receive if you are not going their with a mental purity to receive you are not going get anywhere that’s why there is church everywhere, synagogue everywhere, temple everywhere but that is what I say this mentality to go there in the Gurudwara to give is wrong, you don’t give anything to God you take things from God and learn to receive, the greatest difficulty with everybody is that they even do not receive help, they do not receive advice, people have a hard time to listen truth hurts I agree truth hurts I am not saying truth is very comfortable because truth sets the records straight and nobody wants the record straight so why not to listen what is prayer, prayer is to receive, people pray O God oh no, no, me God, feel little God at that time within you we have been taught for two thousand years pray out side God is outside we have thrown God outside of us and that’s why we are all hurting moment we bring God inside we are all happy that’s the only thing to do to and that’s what I said.

Student: All right, when we (?) is that my interpretation is that since God is the universe and we are (?) ourselves, why do you think that people have difficulty in receiving this?

YB: Well when you feel God within you then you cannot do hanky panky and you want hanky panky, so if you really feel convinced that the God is in within you then you won’t do hanky panky you can’t be emotional, you can’t be lying, you can’t be cheating, you can be a thief, you can be, you cannot be above fifteen hundred things ah you don’t want to do that. So what you see God outside and you inside I say all right when you feel empty you don’t feel God in you that’s your strength feel God in you and they said, no God is outside we are inside and that’s duality that is creating problems.

Student: You were also going to support (?) literature, grandmother, can you go along with detail exactly how you define Sikh woman, the qualities.

YB: A Sikh woman is that who by her radiance, by her own radiance commands the universe around her, I don’t think for lot of things we have to talk and we have to yell and scream and convince each other and these are very animal things. I think people by their presence can make things happen and I have seen my grandmother that by her presence alone and I have seen my only, I mean to say mother in law they are two women I have never seen them that they are talking once they never told please come and respect me please give me a hug no it was, it was very, very soothing to go in their presence and respect them and hug them and receive the love. A woman is just like infinite giving identity of love, affection and strength that is a Sikh woman that’s why a woman training camp I am teaching them to be that woman and they are listening and that’s all is about.

Student: The woman Sikh camp is that something they are just here in the west and do they also have that in the east I mean (?) make up the (?) society is that makeup necessary to have the Sikh woman training camp.

YB: No this,

Student: (----)

YB: This camp is open to everybody but it is, it is teaching those principles that’s why we call it Khalsa woman training camp purity and I did it, I made a international study and I wanted to find out a way how to get rid of divorce and then I found out what is a divorce it is a continuous clash of identities, continuous, then I looked down the universe and I found its area where there is no divorce it has never happened in thousands of years then I got interested I studied and I found out there is a one ritual that every married woman with children in the month of raining season for two months leave for the parent house. If the parents are not alive she goes and lives with her elder brother or something like that, or with uncle or something so what I found out in those two months I studied it they recuperate, their children recuperate and that clash and that stimulate handling and knocking with each other take the knock out as Bob Hope says in the car take the knock out and in those two months all the knock is out and life is stimulatedly start again and my feeling is that, that is what also this camp does it takes the knock out and woman has the total recuperating life and she becomes a woman, she works eleven hours on her life and after two months she goes back and can handle her life much better and husbands like it because they feel wow! The knock is out love is in, it is worth and you only pay for worth and we don’t charge much so it’s all working.

Student: You were speaking of duality, what sort of duality is there between male and or man and woman?

YB: Oh question is that every male wants to control a female and every female wants to control a male. It is a control system and I say whosoever pay bill should control the bills and pay the bills it’s called budgetary system get together your scene and put your plus and minus and come out in balance, life is a interdependent life is not emotional rip-off but emotional rip-off is husband wants to control the wife and wife wants to control the husband both are dishonest, both don’t trust each other and whenever the opportunity comes to the husband he slips around and whenever opportunity comes to the wife she slips around so there is a beautiful house with a weak foundation and the result of that what I am saying is the children are suffering, broken homes, broken heart, broken heart children, broken future children, neurotic children and we cannot go on in this country in this lunatic fashion. We are ruining our society, we are ruining our country and we are ruining our future. Our children are coming out to the most egomaniac loonies it is not the way and it has to stop.

Student: So let me read onto this next question (?) the one of the prophecies that you were going to raise nine hundred and sixty million Khalsa that would rise in the west and shall guide the rest of the world, (?) why you just said about?

YB: It is not my prophecy first of all, it is a prophecy , no, no, I, I requoted it, it’s a prophecy which has been sitting in the east for thousands of years it’s not my prophecy and when I say they will raise, Khalsa means a man who is a pure in mind, soul and body and because I teach that science and I have seen in fifteen years the results are wonderful and I think I am just serving that mission and gradually I believe the Americans once they get to something really with heart, mind and soul, heart and head get together they are really pushing and I think they will.

Student: How can the Sikhs become a guiding force to help shape western society?

YB: Wisdom, wisdom, wisdom, happiness the purpose of life is to be happy and we can deliver happiness so why not we will win, where to lose? There is no chance to lose. I am yet to see anybody who doesn’t want to be happy. I do know people don’t want to price for it, they don’t want to pay the price, they don’t want the discipline, they don’t want to practice but those who are willing to do that are going to get it and that’s it is all about.

Student: One of the things that has been very curious is that (?) Sikhs are very adamantly against tobacco and I was wondering why?

YB: Tobacco?

Student: Yes sir.

YB: Tobacco is called ultimate negative stimulant of the body. Any stimulant out of the body which you give you your body like nicotine, I mean tobacco gives you nicotine and it takes away from you the tolerance, it takes away from you the patience and without patience, patience pays that’s my saying nothing succeeds, you have to be very, very patient and if you are not patiently patient then you are a patient then you need a doctor then you don’t have a life and tobacco takes away the power, the grit, the character, the commitment it makes you shallow, it makes you wrong, it makes you vulnerable, it makes you emotional, it tears up your nerves, it brings imbalance between parasympathetic and sympathetic nerve system, it ruins your action nervous system, it ruins the signals from the brain, nicotine totally changes the chemistry of the neuron system you are talking to somebody who is sitting in own watching what nicotine can do? It can create a hell you can’t come out of it, why we should take it? We have a taboo against it, we have taboo against all outside stimulant because outside stimulant can lift you up and after that they drop you down, when you are lifted up the worlds knows ah, I am great, when you are down nobody comes and give you hand what you wanted to live in that hell, what for?

Student: What type of internal stimulant you are talking about, yoga or?

YB: Internal stimulant, stimulant is what can control I, I believe in one stimulant only which can balance your glandular system and your secretion and your blood chemistry and your organs, your sensitivity, if your senses are balanced and your common sense is working you are extremely creative to get out of any problem I am not saying there will be not be problems win the problem, is the joy of the life.

Student: You are working at (?) particular people or on (?) and therapies has been something that shouldn’t be involved in.

YB: No I am not trying to get into all this I feel that those who live very fast stressful life have to go through certain principles ah when I got sick I was in Rome visiting Pop John Paul II and after that visit we had with two and half hour with the great guy you know and we came back to hotel and I thought I am not right and I checked it out I canceled my whole program not going to London not going out of the country I came direct to Delhi ah sorry to Los Angeles had appointment immediate with my doctor and he took all the test and he said, “I will give you nine months to live.”

I said, “What?”

He said, “Here it goes, sugar three twenty five, triglycerides seven eighty four, the blood pressure one hundred ten and hundred forty and something else.” And he said, “According to these figures plus all the other test I have gone within nine months kidneys both will fail functioning and you will be upside down you will be on dialysis for two weeks and you will be dead.”

I said, “What is the problem?”

He said, “Problem is you sir you gave and gave and gave and gave and you are endless giver.”

I said, “Yeah oh that’s my problem, if that has to stop I prefer die okay doctor.”

He said, “Wait a minute you can do one thing.”

I said, “Well you have charged three hundred eighty four dollars for this interview what is that next or something there is a big amount you charge.”

He said, “Give yourself a chance.”

I said, “Okay that I can do, I will give myself a chance” so I satSat Existence; what is; the subtle essence of Infinity itself. down with the nurse I made my own food which I can take which I think is very beautiful, very workable and extremely cheap and I said, “I will give you two weeks to study myself with this diet with set of exercise which is very politely light I want to give myself a chance” that’s all I said, after two weeks I went everything beautifully normal, blood pressure eighty hundred twenty, sugar ninety three just guess what, triglycerides gone, every other test good. I mean it’s all good and now it is all good and then one day I read my own notes, the notes said, if you want to have a super brain don’t sleep after four AM. If you want to have a super health don’t eat after four PM. Then I explained to self why, because after four PM, four AM your both nostrils starts functional, your breath becomes lighter and your brain wants to let the subconscious release happen and with that subconscious release you get all this dirty wet dreams and horrible dreams and there is a subconscious release that’s the time to meditate and get subconscious under control rather let it release and put the garbage all around the house, you have a garbage spot there outside the house you bring the garbage pan and spread it in the living room that’s terrible and I understood it, I said, “Okay I have no problem.” At four O'clock I am always meditating I have no problem I have a good brain that’s fine it’s super brain all right health is not super, so I said, “Okay.” I will eat one good meal so I take a little breakfast with a certain fruit okay, with a certain beautiful drink, I eat at one O'clock good lunch which I have made out it’s very healthy, it’s very tasty, it has good effect and then at four O'clock, before five minutes to four I take another fruit, I have lost forty five pounds I don’t feel tired, I have more energy than I used to have when I was eighteen year old rather that day I told doctor I said, “I am fifty five year old man and God I am starting feeling super horny and that’s not good for a yogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. ’s image.”

And he said, “Don’t worry it will level off, you have to go through it because the reconstruction has to come to the first cycle of the life isn’t you say the life cycle is eighteen years and now you are going to feel” and there is a new theory he told me and that is called glucoweight and that I am six foot two inches and my weight was two hundred fifty pounds and weight actually should be one hundred and eighty pounds and I am going to achieve it but,

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And it’s a very simple food, it’s a certain constituent, it has a millet, it has a tofu as a protein and tofu is soaked at night in a pure fresh lemon or lime whatever you think and then next day it is baked it is even the people who love to eat stake they love it, it’s more tasty than any stake you pay nine dollars and it is just in one dollar the whole thing is done so then I will take millet which is a very consistent and beautiful and then I take those chitaki mushrooms which are very cleansing and very energetic and take away all the vein and artery deposits and they are very healthy known for centuries and then I take other vegetables which are steamed well prepared and put a very beautiful plate well decorated and similar plate in a good restaurant does cost you about fifty to twenty dollars at home it costs you two, three dollars and I eat it well and I am a healthy and God I gave myself a chance and myself took the chance and received it and it’s all going on and that’s what life is about I believe you can do it, I can do it, you can do it, everybody can do it and doing it is the fun of life.

Student: The book we are seeing is here the official house of the Khalsa council in Wales, is that roughly analogy or it is to Amritsar…

YB: Well the,

Student: (----)

YB: The governor of New Mexico called it as a New Amritsar of America and it has the housing like dhobi houses simple people, beautiful people the environments and the landslide totally fits Amritsar only what we are missing here is the Golden Temple and we have the land and we are going to make it one of the most sophisticated elevated temple ever God will love to see on the earth. It will be considered the crown of all temples including all means all and I have seen churches and synagogues you can’t believe it and I am saying it is going to be a crown of all I am going to do that and that’s why we live low, save every penny don’t mess around we want that capital to get that most piece of art in the land of enchantment to be created that even skies will come down and kiss it, angel will worship it and human will praise it that’s what we want and we got a very beautiful land it’s a fantastic land, it has very fantastic vibration, it’s a very healing place, we love it.

Student: Okay that is why you are establishing here rather than (?) or some place else.

YB: Our mostly our decisions are very divine we don’t do the, we let the hand of God take care of things, things come to us we don’t run after them and we believe in God we dwell, in God we trust whatever he has in store for us will come to us. Nobody can harm us, nobody is our enemy nobody bothers us, we don’t bother anybody, we are saintly people that’s the bottom line, we want everybody to be elevated happy, healthy, holy, enjoy, we want to enjoy too, but that does not mean that we let people tread on us um, um no, no, no that is not our way you tread on us then you must know what treading is and for that self defense is our religious duty defend the weak and defend me when I am weak is my religious motivation I will never back out of that I will let be shot and be dead than to tolerate a poor woman be raped in my presence I don’t want to be a part of it. I prefer to be dead and I feel not guilty at all I don’t agree with the police when somebody has a gun over your head give in, no, I won’t first of all I will see that nobody has gun over my head and secondly I will see that he will learn a lesson that he will never put gun on anybody’s head and if that takes my life out of my body I will fall call it a offering, sacrifice I don’t mind, I am a Sikh I believe in God.

Student: To that sort of that brings us to the attack on the Golden Temple and I talked to DharmaDharma A path of righteous living. It is both an ideal of virtue and a path of action that is infused with clear awareness and comprised of actions that are the soul in total synchrony with the universe. It is action without reaction or karma. Singh Khalsa and GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. Singh Khalsa about this and they rather pointed out that I haven’t seen in any international news at all was the involvement of the KGB.

YB: Yeah, yeah the, it’s very simple, India has been abandoned being a democracy and friendly country by America long many years old, Nixon tilted towards Pakistan, Nixon this, that president everybody is catering to other thing that made Indians very mad Americans armed Pakistan to (?) excessively, now they are feeling pain when Russia is arming Nicaragua, now the fire is in the house now it is in the back when it is burning somebody house is a great fire that’s not true. We abandoned and blackmailed and destroyed our friendship ourselves with India, the greatest democracy, greatest friend of ours and made Pakistan to attack with American arms twice, they were left with no alternative but to fall in the lap of the red polar bear which you call Russia and wherever Russia is KGB is their arm to grab the neck now there is a so much powerful trade clamp on India.

Indians produce textile all bought by Russians, mango Russians, cauliflower Russians, vegetable Russians, banana Russians, they buy everything they have such a trade clamp on India that we can’t come up, what they give in return, arms. They have given for two and half billion dollar worth of arm which were actually ten billion dollars worth so they balance out the trade they are doing it now. Our UN ambassador that lady said it in India very well, well we are, they said, America is arming Pakistan, she said Russia is arming you too and beyond your expectation so she was just replying as out spoken she is but facts are facts so what is happening is America has left India, abandoned India and I read a paper in nineteen sixty six in which there was a whole scheme to Russianise India and in that it said that Sikhs are the pain in the neck because they are patriotic, they are marshals and they will not tolerate Russianization, so they have to be eliminated from Indian army and they have to be downtrodden broken as people and to attack on Golden Temple was advised by KGB agents and they were told to do it India was made to do it and when Indira Gandhi realized that it has been done out of the way excessively and it has annoyed every Sikh and I have got thirty million people totally heart broken and in army there was a mutiny and revolt she wanted to recuperate and KGB killed her and blaming the Sikhs.

Why can’t these two Sikhs guards who were guarding her for all these years but only shot and killed just to blame Sikhs but the KGB plot is blame the Sikhs as terrorists and kill them and let world has no sympathy for it then that’s what they are doing and afterwards they will create another problem, they will kill Rajiv Gandhi and they will blame Sikhs and then they will start communal riots and then they will have a republic government and then they will ask like Afghanistan, Russians to walk in with forces to control India to keep it together and then there will be a clamp forever as now all Afghanistan children from the age of seven to fifteen are being totally trained in Russia and they will comeback after ten years, similarly there is a scheme to do it in India. Well, India shall not be democracy and it shall never be friendly to America again. If Americans dump it now, this is but last opportunity and that is a fact.

Student: I was reading in the (?) attack on Golden Temple factual report that the lot of your personal things and the eternal flame and some of the precious stones and that sort of things were ransacked and stolen, how does that… it’s quite understandable to Sikhs to be upset about that, is there something you are going to be able to cover the enemy?

YB: No, no, it’s a permanent loss the, things which have been lost there in this attack are made to lose I am just sorry that it was also India's most beautiful thing which they ruined it just to hurt Sikhs.

Student: Okay, one last question (?) where do you see Sikhism both in India and western hemisphere going for the next five hundred years?

YB: It is guided by God as the God will take it but one thing I wanted to tell you it’s a very powerful science to feel oneness with God it has never betrayed any practitioner and it shall not betray anybody we will sincerely seek God. It has worked for me, it can work for anybody.

Student: (?) in 1961 and 1971 national geographic on Sikhism and they were saying that it is possible to be Khalsa but not necessarily Sikh, can you explain that?

YB: I don’t know what they are saying actually everybody can be a Sikh any organic person who believes in God because God gave us long hair, God gave us a beard, we cheat on it because we have never understood what is the purpose of the long hair on the skull of the human being and what is the purpose of the beard so we were born babies and we always want to look babies and we want to be babies and when we behave like babies we get all the beating at the earth, that’s why we are sexually defunct, we are emotionally rotten and we are behaviorally crazy because we always want to behave like babies, we look like babies, behave like babies, we don’t want to grow up, we don’t want to take the responsibility, we don’t like to be a sage or a saint or a responsible person who, who can understand people, in this country you have seen, people are funny, ask them, ask any woman what’s your date of birth she won’t tell you. They are scared, they are afraid, they don’t accept their age and a person who doesn’t accept the age how can they mature their being, so there are lot of problems so what is happening is the people are just babyish and that’s how they are behaving and what we are telling them to grow up and somewhere along they will grow up and that’s what Sikhism is about and that’s what all this thing is happening, the environment, the dissatisfaction and you know whole thing is wrong and I know people can’t take it, so things have to change, done, thank you.