NYC, WBAI Radio Show - In the Spirit

 
Date:
December 11, 1972
Location:
New York, NY
 
 
 
 

(Students sing, 'Ek Ong Kar...')

Purushotama (talks over the song): Good morning, this is Purushotama. Today 'In the spirit' we'll hear from YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan and from his disciples who performed all the music for the program and who'll give some of their own impressions about spiritual life and practice.

This tape was made in BAI studios, some weeks ago, when YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan was passing through New York City. As YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. JiJi Soul; used as an endearment or sign of respect. has some hundred thousand followers and ninety active centers in this country we are lucky to get an hour of his time.

There is an informal pragmatism and a rough and ready discipline about this teacher and his followers, which one could well call American. Though himself from India, YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan has forged an American yoga and American lifestyle, suited to the higher level of energy found in this country.

One gets a strong feeling that this KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. is not being imposed on our culture from the outside, but is welling up from within America, as a natural antidote to the poisons in our system and is simply using YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan as its instrument. No single spiritual path is suited for a majority of the seekers. YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. JiJi Soul; used as an endearment or sign of respect. has found special response among young Americans, who have been in deeply involved in the drug scene. We bow with gratitude to a spiritual teacher, who has ended one of this country's roughest scenes and harmonized thousands of people there.

(Students stop singing)

YB: Ong Namo, GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. Dev, GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. , Wahe Wahe Guru , Whaa-hay Guroo A mantra of ecstasy and dwelling in God. It is the Infinite teacher of the soul. Also called the gur mantra. GuruWahe Guru , Whaa-hay Guroo A mantra of ecstasy and dwelling in God. It is the Infinite teacher of the soul. Also called the gur mantra. Guru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. , GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. Ram.

In the depth of your hearts, people are seeking how to find God; to me, it is how to find your own potential. Man understands that he has to find something beyond him. And while finding that beyond, he's trying to find methods, means. And that's why this urge is continuous. On this realm of consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. today, in which we all are, it's not possible to be very outspokenly blunt and it's also not possible to be diplomatic on the spiritual realms.

So, actually speaking, it's a very, very, crucifying state of consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , in which a spiritual teacher lives and walks today on this earth. You can't speak the truth, because you have a compassion to reach maximum people. And you offend those, who holds the via media of it. And you can't be diplomatic, because you don't know how to be that way. So in-between, one has to live his state of consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , which is the state of compromise.

People talk about meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. . And meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. sometime, is very badly misunderstood. What I have found in four years in United State of America, people are giving meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. , just straight away giving mantrasMantra Sounds or words that tune or control the mind. Man means mind. Tra-ng is the wave or movement of the mind. Mantra is a wave, a repetition of sound and rhythm that directs or controls the mind. When you recite a mantra you have impact through the meridian points in the mouth, through its meaning, through its pattern of energy, through its rhythm, and through its naad - energetic shape in time. Recited correctly a mantra will activate areas of the nervous system and brain and allow you to shift your state and the perceptual vision or energetic ability associated with it. and now the result is showing up. They are unable to; first of all, it works very well for a few minutes or few years or few, fewer time and then they start having the aftereffects of that meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. . And that's what I am very much concerned about it.

You must understand yoga is a scientific research of man, consciously lowing his own supreme conscious potentials. Therefore it's not proper for anybody to go into it fast or come out of it fast. There's a reasonable way to do it and it can be done by everybody.

And today, I'll just give you, I'll share with you the technical know-how, for everyone, for each one, how basically you can do it. It will be basic and basic requirement of all the people, if they want to do it.

We have got five fingers including the thumb, little finger is known as the Mercury, the ring finger is known as the Sun finger, central known as the Saturn finger and the first finger we call it Jupiter finger and then the dragon tail and dragon head, or the ego of the male.

So, any time if you just take a bath, if you don't take a cold bath, start with a hot bath, have the cold bath later. But you must have the cold bath, because the blood must come out of the all extension of the outside body. Then put a ordinary blanket around, blanket underneath, sit down. Between the eyebrows and the root of the nose, meditate on that point for few minutes with breath; breathe in, breathe out. That is known as NadiNaadi , Nadi Channels or pathways of subtle energy. It is said that there are over 72,000 primary ones throughout the body. Sodni, cleansing of the channels of the body and bringing a harmony. In this harmony, you can go deeper and deeper and deeper.

But there's a warning, those who meditate on we call it third eye pointThird Eye Point The sixth chakra or center of consciousness. It is located at a point on the forehead between the eyebrows. Associated with the functioning of the pituitary gland, it is the command center and integrates the parts of the personality. It gives you insight, intuition, and the understanding of meanings and impacts beyond the surface of things. For this reason it is the focal point in many meditations. , they should be cautious. They will get lot of headaches under the situation if they do not get the energy from the solar centers, which is top of the head and project out, beam out, out of this point. Now, this is a little technical thing, it doesn't mean anything. But if you don't do it, you'll end up with half headache, sundown headaches and all those kind of things, which you'll not know what is going on. However, I am just asking you to be little careful about it.

So, concentrate on the center of the eyebrows and the root of the nose and draw the energy from the top of the head and start beaming out the four sounds, which makes one word. First sound is 'Sa,' your thumb should touch the Jupiter finger. The second is 'Ta,' it should touch the Saturn finger. The 'Na,' it should touch the sun finger. The 'Ma,' it should touch the Mercury finger. And it becomes a instrument music of your own and your hand become your own musical instrument.

Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma. While doing this, we are communicating as we are communicating. The tips, the tips in the fingers controls the brain cells and the nervous system of the brain, the great computer in the head of the man and it stimulates and permutates and combines with certain combinations of faculties in which the charge energy goes up and down and while doing that it creates a state of consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , where you can receive the realms of higher consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. . In the beginning there was a word, word was with God, word is God. So, you can take the realm of those sound and cut through the barrier of the subconscious mind. And your creative intelligence can overcome the conception of your intellect thought wave, which is all the time bothering you, in your lifestyle.

However, if it is not getting more technical, then start doing it slowly and gradually, louder and louder and then get into the lovers' language, which is known as whisper, 'Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma, Sa, Ta, Na, Ma.'

If you would have done chanting first five minutes and then you have whispered for five minutes. After that you can go deep back into the sound of the silence for five minutes, it takes fifteen minutes. And then you can come back exactly the same way, so fifteen-fifteen means thirty minutes. If these thirty minutes cannot do anything good with you and these four sounds cannot give anything to you or this one basic word, 'word was with God,' cannot do anything for you, then I don't think as a YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan I can do anything for you.

'Sa' means totality, the beginning of the earth or the planet or the galaxy, the whole universe, universe beyond universe, unlimited universe, which GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. Guru Nanak First Guru of the Sikhs. NanakGuru Nanak First Guru of the Sikhs. said,

'Paataalaa paataal lakhLakh 100,000. aagaasaa aagaas. Orak orak bhaal thakay vayd kahan ik vaat. Sehas athaarah kahan kataybaa asuloo ik dhaat. Laykhaa hoe ta likheeai laykhai hoe vinaas. Naanak ay-vai jaanee-ai aapay jaane aap.'

He counted all that, the realms, realms of consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , depth and the height and the projection. But still he said, 'He is the one, who made it, only knows; who knows what He knows, He knows what He knows.'

So going into those realms of the depth of consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , you have to take the same power with you, which God took to create this universe that was the word.

So, 'Sa,' the totality; 'Ta,' the life, existence, the heat; 'Na,' the death, nothingness, absolute Sunna-Samadh, the basic principle and 'Ma,' the resurrection, rebirth, reproductivity, continuity. So, these are the basic sounds, four sounds, doubled and thus create a word ShabadShabad , Shabd Sound, especially subtle sound or sound imbued with consciousness. It is a property or emanation of consciousness itself. If you meditate on shabad it awakens your awareness. , they call it, word.

So, in the beginning there was a word, word was, word is with God, is with God, now it is with you, God is within you. You have to find the realm of your kingdom within you. And with this word within you, you have to create this meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. . It's a creative intelligence, which can break through the realms of the subconscious mind. The conscious mind can break through the subconscious mind and you can perceive, receive, feel, experience the supreme conscious mind.

This kind of meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. should be done with a spine straight, that's one little condition with it. And you should always clean your body. Therefore you have to have a shower. You have a creative power to create this sound. I repeat it for you, Sa, Sa, S A, Sa; Ta, T A, Ta; Na, N A, Na; Ma, M A, Ma.

So, this is a space age, I think in this Christ consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , God consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. and human consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. and love consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , whatever you want to call it, this is very practical way to reach you, to do this meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. . Do it again and again. When you will do this type of meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. lot of light, lot of colors will start being shown to you at the third eye pointThird Eye Point The sixth chakra or center of consciousness. It is located at a point on the forehead between the eyebrows. Associated with the functioning of the pituitary gland, it is the command center and integrates the parts of the personality. It gives you insight, intuition, and the understanding of meanings and impacts beyond the surface of things. For this reason it is the focal point in many meditations. . Do not worry about it, that's a normal situation. And the second is that when you will be just little go deeper into this, you will hear lot of super sounds around your own ears, which you have never heard before. Don't feel that you have achieved something or it is important for you, just bypass that. So, all those lights and all those sounds, which you hear, bypass them and beyond that. Then you will start having a power to listen to something, which is to happen, to feel and know, what is to happen. Feel what other man is going to talk to you, what realm of mind he has got, you can read anybody's mind.

Don't worry about these supernatural powers; they come to a very ordinary man. Beyond that there is a realm of contentment. That is the realm through which this word you can find it and that is the realm, then the universe will serve you. Then you sit uptight and just enjoy your own self and everything will happen right in time for you. Isn't it great, great gift to do?

So, it is beautiful the word has been asked to be sung. This is how I sing it, 'Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa. Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma.'

(Students chant, 'Ek Ong Kar...')

(Students stop chanting)

(Student plays guitar and students sing, 'Ek Ong Kaar...')

(Students stop singing)

Purushotama: YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. JiJi Soul; used as an endearment or sign of respect. , what, what is the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. ?

YB: NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. is the sound that is the ShabadShabad , Shabd Sound, especially subtle sound or sound imbued with consciousness. It is a property or emanation of consciousness itself. If you meditate on shabad it awakens your awareness. . That is, that must have certain sound and light principle involved in it.

Purushotama: Is that the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. that you just (?).

YB: That is the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. , that is the, that is the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. , that is the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. in the human form when we speak that way, then four sounds we talk about, Sa, Ta, Na, Ma.

Purushotama: Can, can one practice the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. without any practice of yoga or, or do they compliment?

YB: Yoga has to be done; in the sense, you have to learn how to keep your spine straight, you have to have a perfect posture. And yoga gives you a perfect posture. Posture has to be perfect.

Purushotama: Can you practice yoga without the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. ?

YB: Well, it is just driving a car without a gas. I mean to say, you ten people can get around and, and push it. NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. is the ultimate, NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. is a... without NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. there is nothing. I mean to say, yoga doesn't mean anything without NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. . NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. is the final realm, which one must achieve, word.

Purushotama: Can you, would you characterize NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. as devotion, as a, the relation to NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. as a devotion?

YB: No.

Purushotama: A feeling of devotion or feeling of knowledge?

YB: No, no, no, no, nothing, it is beyond everything. NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. means the sound of the infinite realms or sound of the supreme consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. . And I don't know, whether people will feel right or wrong, but after about ten other thousand years, what I am saying today will come true. Man will find certain sounds and certain frequencies of sound, which he doesn't know even, he has not started to know it. I mean to say we are so illiterate and so limited in our knowledge.

Purushotama: Is music a way to the sound?

YB: It is one way, it's one of the ways. One of; one of the meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. , which we use in KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. to make a man Kalimaan. Kalimaan means one who has the experience of the KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. . And it's very, very top secret and well-guarded secret, unknown and cannot be told to anybody. But, what is there when sun rises, this is the KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. time, so, let everybody share it.

Purushotama: So, you are, you are sharing, you are sharing a kind of practice, which has been secret in the past and...

YB: Yeah,

Purushotama: Now you feel like it could be revealed.

YB: It is, it is the time it is because I feel that all the people have to practice it. Well, I am a channel you know, water comes to your house and water pipe is not important, water is important, knowledge is important. I mean to say those people who have their KarmaKarma The law of cause and effect applied to mental, moral, and physical actions. Ego attaches us to and identifies us with objects, feelings, and thoughts. These attachments create a bias toward certain lines of action. Instead of acting you begin reacting. Karmas are the conditions required in order to balance or complete these tendencies. Though necessary, karma is not dictatorial or fatalistic. It is the mechanism that allows the finite experience of existence to maintain and stabilize itself. We all have free will and can take actions to re-direct the momentum of a karma. We can transform it or neutralize it using meditation, jappa, good deeds, or intuition that remove your sense of ego and the identification with that past line of action. in their life that today they will hear this tape. They will only hear who are supposed to hear, everybody won't switch on their radio even today. But those, whom this is meant for, shall happen. I mean to say, you were supposed to interview me, you are interviewing me. If I would not have come, you would not have interviewed, things would have been different.

Nothing can be called an accident and there's no such thing as accident. Man is just a puppet of an environmental universal energy, so crossed with the time and space, that it is a orbit of it, which moves on. And this bindu, this point, this creature, he has to move in those realms, though he has a corridor. Like air corridor, you know you can go twenty miles north, twenty miles south, in-between you can run around. But crossing the corridor is not within the realms until you have the power to have known the depth of other realms then you can do it.

Purushotama: Is this country a suitable place to reveal KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. ?

YB: This is the only country, which will learn it, other will only mock about it. When I came about four years ago, people were so much against it and today this is the maximum people want to learn it.

Purushotama: Does, does a person have to be particularly or endowed with strength to sustain the KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. practice?

YB: Everybody has his infinite potential. It is not that, people may misunderstand me, today on this things. Because I am a basically Hatha YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. and I can do all the hundred and eight postures. I have quite a body trained for that for years. I have trained also Hatha YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. . Means, I am basically what I am trying to convince is, I have done all the twenty-two channels of yoga and I have enjoyed it. But you know, in Hatha Yoga for a posture perfection you take twelve years; in Raj Yoga for meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. on your psychic center you take six years; in MantraMantra Sounds or words that tune or control the mind. Man means mind. Tra-ng is the wave or movement of the mind. Mantra is a wave, a repetition of sound and rhythm that directs or controls the mind. When you recite a mantra you have impact through the meridian points in the mouth, through its meaning, through its pattern of energy, through its rhythm, and through its naad - energetic shape in time. Recited correctly a mantra will activate areas of the nervous system and brain and allow you to shift your state and the perceptual vision or energetic ability associated with it. Yoga, then you take three years and then Laya Yoga, that mantraMantra Sounds or words that tune or control the mind. Man means mind. Tra-ng is the wave or movement of the mind. Mantra is a wave, a repetition of sound and rhythm that directs or controls the mind. When you recite a mantra you have impact through the meridian points in the mouth, through its meaning, through its pattern of energy, through its rhythm, and through its naad - energetic shape in time. Recited correctly a mantra will activate areas of the nervous system and brain and allow you to shift your state and the perceptual vision or energetic ability associated with it. , which we have perfected must be tuned in into the realm of the sound, takes two years and then you come to a Kalimaan or a master of KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. . And then he will give you a training for ninety days. So, why not to basically start with certain fundamentals.

Actually speaking, all this yoga existed. KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. was later on asked by saints and sages. Because the householders, they can't give all that time. It's not possible to put those all twenty-two years of the major life to learn that way. That's why, a system was organized that's what a KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. is. It is a, it's a, it's a, it is a, it is a situation, which, when you can just cut down the realms of time, that's all.

Purushotama: How, how long does it, does it take for someone to become established in KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. , introduced through your (?)?

YB: Well it is, it is so, with some people it can be just a slip on the floor and they feel, they have gone and seen the Infinity. Some people, some right time it happens to them, just because their previous incarnation they were ready for it. Some people just do it in very small days, some take lot times, some have just spent four years and they have just not progressed two inches.

Purushotama: I am a, I am a friend of, of one of, some of YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. JiJi Soul; used as an endearment or sign of respect. 's disciples, they have a restaurant in Washington called 'Golden Temple.' And they have, if they have raised KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. power, they are putting it to most practical use and it's a beautiful restaurant and, and very successful and... So, (?) you are not encouraging your disciples just to, just to sit around and in caves experiencing KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. .

YB: No, no, no, no, no, no, our, our problem is very simple. Let us be very blunt on that. I am a very, very blunt. We get up early in the morning, because we know the technical know-how not to sleep eight hours and we know medically man requires only maximum one hour or two hour sleep. So basically, we give that technique, so that people can just cut down that and get up in the morning, have shower, do the meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. , get ready to face the whole day and whole world. And they do it, they do it very fine job. And then we love to earn with the sweat of our brow that is the highest dignity of the man. No, no laying your number on welfares and no buying food stamps, just art of giving. Give, that is the, that is the action of God. God gives, man takes all the time.

Purushotama: The first time I met you, YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. JiJi Soul; used as an endearment or sign of respect. , was at I was having dinner with some mutual friends and I, you asked me at the end of the evening, (?), "What are you seeking, just give it to me in one little word."

And I said, I said, "Bliss."

You smiled and you said, "Get it in serving people."

And I have always remembered that, that was a very (?).

YB: Well, you are right. Basically, you must understand, now I see your auraAura The radiant field of energy and consciousness that surrounds the physical body and which holds and organizes the seven centers of energy called chakras. Its strength, measured by brightness and radius, determines the vitality, mental concerns, and psychophysical integrity of a person. right and I see your destiny, it's already written, that's the way you have been produced. Not only you will, you have not yet started serving people, you'll serve the whole world one day. I mean, I am not making a prophecy, but this is how it is written in your destiny. Your voice will reach from one corner to the other corner of the world. I don't know how it's going to happen, but that's what the destiny is. But however you may try to change it. I mean to say if you try to tomorrow open a boutique shop, you can't do that.

So, there are certain channels, people are channels. So, what I mean to say is, serving people, working practically, living happy, shining, peaceful, contentment, is the highest gesture. Because if you not know the God, God is Unknown, His creation is known. So the artist can be known through art. So, knowing the realms of the creation is to know the Creator. And the knowing the realm of the creation is only to know through service. And that is already written before your birth on your very forehead when you came out. Stamped they call it, eight cent stamped letter will go all over in United State America.

Purushotama: No saving stamps.

YB (laughs): No saving stamps.

Purushotama: Ah, you, you say that you are, you are, you are teaching teachers, that's the way you, that's the way you often put it otherwise (?) simply disciples.

YB: You know my, my idea... No, no, I don't want to get into the jazz, disciples. What is a disciple? Who's a disciple of whom? God created the creature, God created me. And look what a beauty it is, sometime I say, 'what a humble man and little man I am and God has made a yogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. out of me,' I mean to say it is His pleasure, I mean, it's, it's not something. When the lowest of a low and the meanest of the mean is raised to the highest realm, to be respected and revered by the people, that is we call the mantraMantra Sounds or words that tune or control the mind. Man means mind. Tra-ng is the wave or movement of the mind. Mantra is a wave, a repetition of sound and rhythm that directs or controls the mind. When you recite a mantra you have impact through the meridian points in the mouth, through its meaning, through its pattern of energy, through its rhythm, and through its naad - energetic shape in time. Recited correctly a mantra will activate areas of the nervous system and brain and allow you to shift your state and the perceptual vision or energetic ability associated with it. , SatSat Existence; what is; the subtle essence of Infinity itself. Sat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. Sat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. NamSat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. Naam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. Wahe Wahe Guru , Whaa-hay Guroo A mantra of ecstasy and dwelling in God. It is the Infinite teacher of the soul. Also called the gur mantra. GuruWahe Guru , Whaa-hay Guroo A mantra of ecstasy and dwelling in God. It is the Infinite teacher of the soul. Also called the gur mantra. Guru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. . Wa, what a beautiful it is, that he's a light of the God. It's not the individual important.

So, you know, some people, some kind people, some great people, some sages, some saints, shared this knowledge with me out of compassion. They made me a master. Why should not I make others as masters? Why should I run around and give them run arounds and you know. What for? Who am I? I got it, I have it, I share with it and I share with others as it came to me, so, I give.

Purushotama: So, so your friends, you can call them or your or your nieces and nephews, whatever you want to call.

YB: We call them a family in which you know, where there's a father-daughter relationship. Well, let anybody think me anything, some people think I am a nut, I don't care, you know.

Purushotama: But they all, will these will be qualified teachers?

YB: They are qualified teachers, not will be, they are qualified teachers, they are serving people. We learn and we teach, we teach and we learn. I mean to say, if in this hand we take, that hand we give, we don't keep anything. So, the continuous flow is there. We have no time realm, we have to live above time, above clouds and the sunshine. It's very difficult sometime to even think on it, but if you practically think and this is the only way. There is only one way and that is the way of righteousness.

Purushotama: Will you be living in this country for permanently or can you (?).

YB: I am, I am a resident of this country, because I don't want to do my number and runaway. I want to do my number here and face the, face the gallows, if I have to face it here. Because once you eat from the soil, you have to serve the soil. I don't want a hit and run business is not my business.

Purushotama: So, so, you are a, you are a permanent part of the American scene?

YB: Ah yeah, that is why I, I call myself, 'we the Americans,' that is the privilege you know, to say that way. Because this is how it is, it is going to be. If you understand the science of the stars even, the Uranus is one star, which runs but projects a light from the west to the east. So, east has done its role, west shall become east, in spiritual knowledge, in philosophy, in living, in the art of reaching the realms of the consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , technically, mentally and spiritually. And you know, if I am here, I am here for that purpose, I am not here for just becoming a rich American, I don't care. I am rich anyway, because I have home in all the ninety-six cities, because I have no home of mine, so.

Purushotama: So, you are, you are an American and this is, this Americans have, have, have never, the only native Americans are, are, are the...

YB: Are the real; everybody is a melting American.

Purushotama: Yes.

YB: I always call it as a melting pot where all come and melt in. And actually when I came in here, they asked me, "What you have for us?"

I said, "Well, I'll give you a life, which will be healthy, happy and holy."

That's why we call it 3HO mantraMantra Sounds or words that tune or control the mind. Man means mind. Tra-ng is the wave or movement of the mind. Mantra is a wave, a repetition of sound and rhythm that directs or controls the mind. When you recite a mantra you have impact through the meridian points in the mouth, through its meaning, through its pattern of energy, through its rhythm, and through its naad - energetic shape in time. Recited correctly a mantra will activate areas of the nervous system and brain and allow you to shift your state and the perceptual vision or energetic ability associated with it. . It is also self-healing mantraMantra Sounds or words that tune or control the mind. Man means mind. Tra-ng is the wave or movement of the mind. Mantra is a wave, a repetition of sound and rhythm that directs or controls the mind. When you recite a mantra you have impact through the meridian points in the mouth, through its meaning, through its pattern of energy, through its rhythm, and through its naad - energetic shape in time. Recited correctly a mantra will activate areas of the nervous system and brain and allow you to shift your state and the perceptual vision or energetic ability associated with it. , 'healthy am I, happy am I, holy am I,' if you meditate on this mantraMantra Sounds or words that tune or control the mind. Man means mind. Tra-ng is the wave or movement of the mind. Mantra is a wave, a repetition of sound and rhythm that directs or controls the mind. When you recite a mantra you have impact through the meridian points in the mouth, through its meaning, through its pattern of energy, through its rhythm, and through its naad - energetic shape in time. Recited correctly a mantra will activate areas of the nervous system and brain and allow you to shift your state and the perceptual vision or energetic ability associated with it. , your all diseases get cured by the will of God. It's the highest mantraMantra Sounds or words that tune or control the mind. Man means mind. Tra-ng is the wave or movement of the mind. Mantra is a wave, a repetition of sound and rhythm that directs or controls the mind. When you recite a mantra you have impact through the meridian points in the mouth, through its meaning, through its pattern of energy, through its rhythm, and through its naad - energetic shape in time. Recited correctly a mantra will activate areas of the nervous system and brain and allow you to shift your state and the perceptual vision or energetic ability associated with it. . So, we chant that.

And then I said, "I'll give such teachers to America that those American yogisYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. will teach the American yogisYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. how to do yoga and I'll live by my words, because I worship the word."

Purushotama: Do, do any, any new styles and techniques come to life in a better, specifically American or (?) all the things that you teach, things that you that you learned originally in India? In other words (?) is, is the America having some influence on the yoga, on the...

YB: Ah, yeah. America is attracting lot of people in the field of yoga. And we are also getting faster to let the American yogisYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. become the yogisYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. . And that's why, what we are doing is, we are Americanizing the yoga. Yoga is the knowledge, it's not India, America or Japan or Tibet; it can be America. And one day I think, the main tourist traffic to America will be to come and learn yoga.

Because one thing is, in this country, people are very powerful and they are very honest seekers. But you can't sell them for a long time something, which is not real. They have that power of discrimination and that is, that is most valuable. You can promise them, you can just, you know, give them a little situation where that you can blind them for a while, I call it. They are very, very, very wise people. They know where the real thing is and who is the real.

So, this power of discrimination, this urge to seek, is the basis, on which one day you will find American will triumph over all the difficulties, in the sense, northern American I am saying.

Purushotama: Do you, do you think there's any chance in, in bringing together the, the various people who are interested in this, in the spiritual practice in United States?

YB: Yeah, I am trying to do it all the four years. I am always saying that, you know, health and, Yoga and Health, London magazine has printed a very powerful article, which they interviewed me. 'Who are the dangerous yogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. ,' that is the heading they gave.

And I said, "Dangerous is that, who does not know how to unite. What kind of yogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. he is, who do not know how to unite and if he cannot unite with other yogisYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. , other brothers, other system, other (?), he's going to divide, separate, what kind of yogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. he is, even it is a shame to call him a yogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. ."

So, I think, we are putting the word out and we are going to bluntly and openly and strongly going to do it. And the words are out, the kids are going to learn it and they are going to question all these people, who are teaching, that, 'you can't learn from somebody, you can't do the thing, my thing is the best thing, other things are wrong.' This, these are, these are very, very old hypocrisies, which we all know about it. I don't think it is going to work for a long time.

And finally, either they have to take the towline and come all the way to be real yogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. and be united and unite all the people and come together and do it or they will lose the market, they'll be unwanted, they have to quit. And that's mainly downfall of all these people will come ultimately, there's no problem, because nature is working faster than their own little egos. So, I am a hopeful man, I mean to say I feel nature will do what is right. But our little job is to spread this word all over.

Purushotama: Do you, do you feel yourself deepening in the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. or do you, do you, have you, have you, have you reached a plateau?

YB: Well, as far as my personal level is concerned, let me word it this way, 'it is thy will O Lord, as you keep me into the dense of the mud or on the top of the lotus, all is thy pleasure, what this little creature even can realize.'

I know the language of words, so, in words I don't get caught normally.

(YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan laughs)

You know, once I met a very great man and he said, "To what depth of the depth, you have found the depth?"

That was his question.

And I looked at him and I smiled, I said, "To what humility the humble can realize his own humbleness."

So, we both smiled and that smile was more divine than Divinity in word means, that way.

Purushotama: You said that being a spiritual master particularly in the United States is a kind of a crucifying consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , that's how you put it.

YB: Yeah.

Purushotama: And when the people, the people suspect you being on, on a power trip or (?).

YB: No, no, no, people don't suspect me, but they have got very, very sad experiences with many stuff, you know. And you know, when, when they have got already a hard experience, they put you on hot plate too. I mean to say, it's not easy, you know, it's not easy to get around well, because, they say, 'well, he may be a phony because so and so was.'

So, you hear it, right on your very face. I mean to say they put the mud right on your face, what you can do. So you, you clean the KarmaKarma The law of cause and effect applied to mental, moral, and physical actions. Ego attaches us to and identifies us with objects, feelings, and thoughts. These attachments create a bias toward certain lines of action. Instead of acting you begin reacting. Karmas are the conditions required in order to balance or complete these tendencies. Though necessary, karma is not dictatorial or fatalistic. It is the mechanism that allows the finite experience of existence to maintain and stabilize itself. We all have free will and can take actions to re-direct the momentum of a karma. We can transform it or neutralize it using meditation, jappa, good deeds, or intuition that remove your sense of ego and the identification with that past line of action. of others, that's why sometime I am called a garbage cleaner. You know, you got to stick around and you got to be honest and you got to continue and you got to also know that their feelings might be right. Why, why, what right I have got to question anybody? If somebody got burned he got burnt. Then he has, even he's not burned, he's doubtful, he's practical, he just doesn't want to relate to those situation, he want to say, 'well, you are not right.'

Purushotama: They call you a garbage cleaner, one of the garbage, some of the garbage that's in the society is, in the form of chemicals, that, that people (?) to get higher (?).

YB: Yeah, human ecology, human ecology.

Purushotama: You know, what, what, what about the kind of chemical garbage?

YB: Just putting a chemicals in your system and I always know, those who wants to stimulate themself from outside, will never know what is inside stimulation. Because they don't, don't do, don't go together. So, if you want to reach the consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. of higher stimulation, then you got to stimulate it from with inside and then you don't require all these drugs. That's why we have a very powerful system, through which even anybody who's hooked on heroin and all those kind of situations, will not suffer the return back or what they call it, cold turkey or (?).

Purushotama: Yeah, my, my, my friends, who, who are your, who are your friends or your, your followers, they have lived with ex-heroin addicts in their, in their own house and, and worked with them and, and it's a, it's a one of the powerful things that your people are doing. (?).

YB: Well, our, our motto is, 'let us build a drug free nation,' help the, help the 3HO foundation, that's what we call it. I mean to say, that is what the slogan we give out, 'let us build a drug free nation.' Because we don't believe that drugs are in anyway will be helpful (?).

Purushotama: Don't, don't you think that people, young people who have a longing for yoga, have, have taken, have drugs in all sincerity?

YB: Yeah, they, they were misguided by certain people and they thought this is the way and also they were not misguided to that extent. What I feel is, that at that time there was a lack of communication between the parents and the kids. And the social structure of the home, the coziness of the home and the warmth of the home was totally cold and dead. So, it is very difficult psychologically and for social reason to break the ties with parents and the house you live in and the streets you have raised up and the city you are in. And they wanted something powerful to disconnect this, so they stoned their brains, stoned their brains and they became junkies, not to give any attachment to values of that established pattern of things. So, they took help of those drugs, otherwise not.

Purushotama: But, is it, is it possible that some, some people are taking KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. as a, as a, as a method for breaking the ties with the, with the culture they no longer believe in?

YB: No, no, no, no, well rather we are responsible for bringing them into the right righteous living. I mean to say, it is not culture belief, it's a question of you believe in the society or not, then you have to become a part of the society and play your honest role. And this is one of the requirements, people who practice this KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. they have to earn their own money, in the right consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. . When you earn something in right consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , you got to go out in the market and do the job. And when you do the job, you got to relate to the society around you. So, you have to be extra beautiful, extra polite, extra attractive, extra communicative, extra smiling, all those extras, x plus has to be added to you. And when you are willing to do that, naturally you become a very important part of the society.

Purushotama: So, so, you are an American who's trying to reclaim other Americans for America?

YB: Well, that's what we don't say, let us build a beautiful America and built it in the beautiful way, don't play underhand means, just go straight and do it in the honest, honest, truthful way. Because when you are living on a soil, serve the soil. The basic principle of service cannot be ignored. And that is what we are in our depth we want to be. I mean to say why not we should claim as good, honest Americans, why not we should be just, why should we be funky Americans, what is the big deal about that? And then if we are good Americans, then we can serve our all brothers in the whole world.

Purushotama: What about good Americans who, who don't practice yoga and the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. ? Well, are they sleeping or what, well, how would you characterize?

YB: They, they, well, they also have intoxication, you know, cutty, shark, six dollar ninety-five cent. They have to spend some money to do that jazz. I mean, nobody is free from NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. . Intoxication of life is the principle.

GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. Guru Nanak First Guru of the Sikhs. NanakGuru Nanak First Guru of the Sikhs. said one beautiful verse.

'Posath, bhang, apheem, madh utar jaye prabhat, NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. khumari Nanaka chadi rahe dinn raat.'

Posat-poppy; bhang-marijuana; apheem-opium; madh-wine or whisky whatever you want to call it.

'Utar jaye prabhat.'

If you have a night a party, in the morning you will hang up or hangover and whatever you call it and it will go away and it will make you miserable.

'NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. khumari Nanaka chadi rahe dinn raat.'

The power of the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. shall continue to intoxicate you day and night. I mean to say, in other words you can live in the realms of the highest consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , consciously relating to the conscious world.

Purushotama: Is the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. going on all the time, in, in, in the hearts of people?

YB: Yeah, yeah, this practice, this practice (?) and the whole nature sends you the sound. I mean to say, you, it is not that your consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. can get off it at anytime. (?).

Purushotama: If, if, if, if anyone were only able to...

YB: Anyone.

Purushotama: Tuned in, they would find it already going on.

YB: (?), anyone, including my white cat, when I sing in the morning, at that hour, continuously that white cat comes, sit outside and listen to that sound. And that cat is so tuned on that sound, I can't believe it. I think, it is not dishonest it's a very honest way a man can reach within himself and can, can find those realms, which are his higher consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. .

(YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan laughs)

Purushotama: Very good.

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Purushotama: You laugh a lot, I mean do you, do you, do you think, humor is part of the yoga?

YB: Smile, smile, only those can smile on whom God smiles. And those who smile, they smile because God smiles. Don't frown, that's no good.

Purushotama: I remember (?) GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. Singh, before this GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. Singh was telling me that, he used to come and practice the yoga and everything and, and he didn't use to wear a turban, or now and then (?) because he was working in IBM, I think.

YB (laughs): Yeah.

Purushotama: He was a little, he was a little hesitant. And he said that you never, you never forced the issue with him. But he said, somehow just being with you he felt you know, that, that, that he should have (?).

YB: No, I, I, I, I don't tell anybody to do anything, that's one part of me, I will never, everybody has to do it on their own. Because when you tell somebody to do it, then you enslave him. No, that's not honest, that's not honest. Why should, why should I tell anybody I know it, they will do it, whosoever to follow, even you follow it one day, I may come in here, you'll have turban on your head. It's not; you know, when you know, experience the realities of something, then you have to have those tools. These are tools, they are not the end in themself they are the tools.

Purushotama: YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. JiJi Soul; used as an endearment or sign of respect. , you are, you are a married man who has children and grandchildren and, and you don't come from an ascetic type of Indian tradition, I mean you don't look like Mahatma Gandhi, you are, you are (?).

YB: No, Mahatma Gandhi has three children.

Purushotama: But on the other hand, just, just physically, I mean you don't look like (?).

YB: You mean.

Purushotama: (?) little ascetic, you look very powerful, you look like a, from a warrior race in a certain way.

YB: Well, basically.

Purushotama: (?) people, but people will have a stereotype of India. When (?) say, they think that, that monasticism says this, that this is the basic spiritual...

YB: No, no, nothing doing.

Purushotama: Teaching of India.

YB: One who cannot relate to this world and cannot experience this world and cannot live in this world, how can he rise above the world. I mean, you mean, think I should be skinny, with a staff in my hand, with a begging bowl in the other and have a couple, couple spoons of rice in it and should live on it. Those kind of myths and imaginations are not right.

Purushotama: But your, your people marry and have children?

YB: Yeah, we, we are householders and our first, actually KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. is the yoga of householders. It is not, those Hatha and those kind of stuff is for other kind of stuff. This was practically a yoga designed and experienced by people who live in as a householder. Because on householder lives the God, on householder live these people, who call themself, whatever you want to call them, because on whose money they live? These holy men live on the money of the sinners and it's the sinner who redeems them, so that they can eat and then still they said they are the redemption centers.

(YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan laughs)

No, no, no, it is the householder, which sustain the world.

Purushotama: The KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. is a, is a, is a, is a feminine force, the, the Adi Aad Shakti , Adi Shakti The primal creative force. ShaktiAad Shakti , Adi Shakti The primal creative force. Shakti The creative power and principle of existence itself. Without it nothing can manifest or bloom. It is feminine in nature. .

YB: Yeah.

Purushotama: But what is, what (?)?

YB: It is a, it is a creative force of the universe, without God. Shiva-ShaktiShakti The creative power and principle of existence itself. Without it nothing can manifest or bloom. It is feminine in nature. principle is the grace of God, is the woman, is the creative principle.

Purushotama: So, the woman for, for, for you the woman represents something very fundamental.

YB: It represent to me my altar, it represents to me my place of respect, it represent to me my personality, it represents to me my existence, it represents to me through which God shall love me, I have not to love God; it represents to me the totality, the first symbol of universe.

Purushotama: So, (?) there's, there's a kind of, sense of fatherhood of God, there's a, there's the motherhood of the KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. .

YB: Yeah, fatherhood of the God is slave to the motherhood, otherwise he lives a divorced life and he loves in, he, he cooks his own meals and burn his own fingers and get busted all the time.

Purushotama: So the mother is what's, what's taking care of the universe, the mother.

YB: The mother is universe, universe is mother. Poor father sits like a Shiva in the snow, top of the Himalayas, does nothing. That's why they call him, 'Bum, Bum, Bolenath.' You know these bums.

(YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan laughs)

That's the name of Lord Shiva, the Creator of the Universe, 'Bum, Bum, Bolenath.' Bola mean innocent. He's such an innocent one, he's bum.

(YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan laughs)

Things are not different in the west and east, you know.

Purushotama: So, so, do women among, among the KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. yoginis, are, are, highly respected members of the family, when they started.

YB: Yeah, they are, they are the pioneers of the family. Because they will give the family of tomorrow, they are the creative principle of God consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. . That's why we call them they are the grace of God. Man can only have a salvation by relating to the creative principle and that's the woman. I mean to say logically, reasonably and practically we are very true.

Purushotama: Do you, do you see the divine in, in women, as you, as you, as you (?)?

YB: Minus divine there is no woman, she's a challenge to man ego, all the time. When the lustful man drops down from the realm of consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. of a higher self, then he goes into a, what you call is, animal consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. and then he destroys woman and thus he destroys his own future, his own dignity, his own destiny.

Purushotama: Do you think the women's liberation movement is a manifestation of the Adi Aad Shakti , Adi Shakti The primal creative force. ShaktiAad Shakti , Adi Shakti The primal creative force. Shakti The creative power and principle of existence itself. Without it nothing can manifest or bloom. It is feminine in nature. or do you think that's a (?).

YB: No, it is a, it is a, it is a conspiracy of the man. It's a very deep-rooted conspiracy of the man. Men wanted them to be just the, you must understand what is the main features of the women. Woman can give a new man a new life, a new inspiration, which is the greatest, powerful, beautiful role of a woman. And what they are telling the woman is, 'you are low, you have to come all the way equal to us.' Whereas she is always high, she is never low, she can never be low.

You might be remembering that story, that out of the rib of the man, the woman was created by God and she created sin. But all these men today are created out of the womb of the woman. So, how can, how can, when you are born out of something, how an apple can talk about the tree on which it is hanging? Woman can understand, make everybody to realize her grace and grace of God and how powerful she is and how divine she is and then everything in this world will run around the woman. She is not a slave to anything.

Purushotama: So, the, the KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. is really making a call to American women to, to...

YB: Rise, rise, time is now and create the future now, so that you can rise above the time. Well, you know, through the time she was very kind and very giving and she didn't care and the man took advantage of it. And now, now what? In other five-six years they will be all right.

Purushotama: I hear sometimes that you, that you sing and, and the songs sort of come down through you. Do you, do you feel like singing?

(YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan laughs)

YB: Yeah, sometime I do sing.

Purushotama: Sing, sing, sing, sing one of, sing one of your, sing one of your songs. Sing one of the songs that's come down through you.

YB: I mean to say you are, you are, you are trying to get into the very depth of me. Yes, this birthday I sang to all the people. Let us all sing, can we?

(YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan sings, 'We are the people...')

(Students sing along)

(YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan and students stop singing)

YB: And we were all dancing and singing it for a long time, it was beautiful. But it just came in, I mean to say, I (?). Those are certain realms, which, which are beyond me too.

Purushotama: So, love, you think is a, is a, is a (?).

YB: Love is God, love is sacrifice, when you are in love, you can only sacrifice. Love is a experience of selflessness within oneself. It is experience, it, it can't be talked out. When you can't sacrifice, you are not in love. Because giving is the law of life and sacrifice is the power behind giving and sacrifice is love, God is love, love is God.

(YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan sings, 'We are the people...')

(YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan stops singing)

(Student plays guitar and students sing, 'We are the people...')

(Students stop singing)

Purushotama: (?) took on you know, (?) how did you enter this family? Well, I was (?) on a drug, hey, Ek Ong Kar SatSat Existence; what is; the subtle essence of Infinity itself. Sat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. Sat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. NamSat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. Naam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. .

(YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan and students laugh)

So, how did you get into this family?

Student: Well, I was interested in yoga before I came into this family and well I was doing the yoga, while I was taking drugs as well. And then when I started doing this KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. , I found they supplied a lot of the answers that I was looking for. And it just gave me a substitute, something that I could really get involved with. That was in England about two years ago with Vikram Singh. And basically I stayed with the Hacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. ashramHacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. Ashram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. , living outside the Hacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. ashramHacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. Ashram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. for about eight months or so and then moved into the Hacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. ashramHacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. Ashram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. and we changed ashramsAshram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. , I just stayed with family and then came to the USA, came to New York and I have been living in Brooklyn ashramAshram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. , about a month.

Purushotama: What do you, what do you think of YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. JiJi Soul; used as an endearment or sign of respect. ?

Student: YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. JiJi Soul; used as an endearment or sign of respect. is very powerful yogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. , he has got very many techniques, he can answer a lot of questions about anything to do with body or anything that you can I mean to say, find out about, he can supply you with an answer to that question.

Purushotama: Do you think you'll spend the rest of your life in this practice?

Student: Well, (?) I feel like I am a sort of stick in a river which has been flowing along with the current and I think that even if I wanted to leave right now, (?) much choice in it. You know, I am just been taken along with the current and that's the way things are flowing, you know. So, as I say now, I think, even if I say no, I think (?) probably happen that it will happen that I will stay with it. You know.

Purushotama: Does, does it feel good to be in the flow?

Student: Sure, very good. Sometimes it's just my ego sort of says that, you know, what's going on, but then I can realize (?) is just a ego. You know, when I think you are related to selflessness, and I can see the reason far better to be on sort of direction towards God. You know, if you get in yourself in the (?), your personality and just flowing with it, right to the sea.

Student1: We had a (?) name with a bunch of people and we are trying to live together, we are doing a little yoga, it didn't really work out. And we split up and I left looking around for a teacher, you know and experienced a few teachers until finally one day I was talking to somebody and they told me about this teacher, who is a real nut, you know and a real powerful kind of yoga he was doing, so, you know, I was naturally interested. So, I went over to see what he was doing and did some yoga and I got so worked out, I just started doing it, because it's got me higher than drugs, you know, so, that's how I got into it. You know, negativity and my own self, you know, gets worked out a lot. A lot of stuff gets released out of myself consciously, when I meditate with yogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. and I feel very peaceful.

Purushotama: What's it like having your little child here, with you? What's it like, what's it like having a child and, and practicing yoga?

Student1: It's really beautiful having a child. She teaches me a lot of things, you know. If I don't get up and do my SadhanaSadhana , Saadhana A spiritual discipline; the early morning practice of yoga, meditation, and other spiritual exercises. The Aquarian Sadhana can be an individual or group practice; Ideally, it includes the recitation of Japji Sahib, a Kundalini Yoga kriya, and chanting the Aquarian Sadhana meditations, immediately followed by Gurdwara. According to Yogi Bhajan, the potency of any Kundalini Yoga and meditation practice will be enhanced in a group setting. , she gets cranky all day long. And I don't know, I learn how to be relaxed you know, behind what she's doing. You know, because it's a real test, you know. Because a child gets at your ego, they know exactly where, where your ego is, they know exactly where your hang-ups are, you know, even from very young. And you know, like even a little young baby like this, she knows, she'll start crying and she knows that I can immediately say, 'is she sick,' or you know, this or that a freak out or I can just be really cool and flow with it and then, then she'll start doing whatever she's doing (?).

Purushotama: Do you, do you get help from your friends in the Hacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. ashramHacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. Ashram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. ?

Student1: Oh yeah, oh yeah. That's, that's what an ashramAshram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. is all about, you know, (?), we help each other out, raise our consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. together.

Student: I used to play in a Rock n Roll band and was in pretty heavy in the drug scene for few years. And a, a friend turned me on to him. And the first class I went to, I'll never forget the first exercise I, we had to hold our legs at sixty degrees in the air for three minutes and that was like, it's, it's been ever since then.

(Students laugh)

So the experience were just so far out even after that first class and however our life changed right there and is a gradual, like inside I changed immediately, but the external appearances of things took a few months to workout. And I, I moved into the Hacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. ashramHacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. Ashram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. , after several months I am, and it just became a very beautiful experience, like I am (?). You know, just started devoting my whole life to doing what I was doing, doing the yoga.

Purushotama: Do you think of, of YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. JiJi Soul; used as an endearment or sign of respect. as your father?

Student: I look at him as my spiritual father, you know. I am going to help my own parents, which I am related to, so I can't substitute him there. But you know, he's my, he's my spiritual father and everything. He's awakened in me all the spirituality, you know, that I have. You know, I got a certain place on drugs, and then he showed me beyond that what the potential was within myself. I had to realize that and, and hold it in consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. at all times.

(?) you take drugs, you take (?), you get high and then you come back down again, but he told me how to, not just be psychedelic high, you know, not to see stars all the time and be spaced out but to keep a higher consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. and still maintain yourself on the earth level. That'll be practically oriented and doing, have to do on the earth, run your business, do all that stuff, keep your marriage scene together and keep your family together, at the same time maintaining a higher consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. .

And he taught me that meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. doesn't mean going and sitting in a cave and spacing out. But it means the attitude (?) in your life is, the attitude that you live your life, the, the, the way you think when you, when you talk to people, how your, your attitude is and the way that you live. And the SamadhiSamadhi The state of consciousness in which the mind is free from reacting to thought waves. isn't when you are totally gone out of your body and in a trance, but SamadhiSamadhi The state of consciousness in which the mind is free from reacting to thought waves. is when your attitude is confirmed behavior, so that all the time you are infallible in your behavior that you have always tuned in. That's the, it's such a beautiful, practical thing, it's a, the whole way, the whole way of life is practically oriented, it's to bring spirituality onto the earth plain and workout our KarmasKarma The law of cause and effect applied to mental, moral, and physical actions. Ego attaches us to and identifies us with objects, feelings, and thoughts. These attachments create a bias toward certain lines of action. Instead of acting you begin reacting. Karmas are the conditions required in order to balance or complete these tendencies. Though necessary, karma is not dictatorial or fatalistic. It is the mechanism that allows the finite experience of existence to maintain and stabilize itself. We all have free will and can take actions to re-direct the momentum of a karma. We can transform it or neutralize it using meditation, jappa, good deeds, or intuition that remove your sense of ego and the identification with that past line of action. where they have to be worked out.

Purushotama: Is it, is it, is it, is it fun, do you, do you, do you laugh living your life or is it, there is that pretty, pretty serious?

Student: No, it's all fun, everything is a fun. It's all good you know, when you, your attitude gets a little bit together and you, you realize in your whole consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. that there is a God, that there is a energy that prevails through everything at anytime and it's in a rock, it's in a, it's in your breath, it's in everything that's around you, it's always there. And it's like there's somebody who has a master plan all the time. And so these little changes come and they, these things happen to you, accidents happen to you, bad times come, good times come. So, you can remember, every time a bad time comes, there's, you know, there's still a Creator and He's prevailing through you at all times, as long as you are breathing. You know, He's giving you that breath and just the awarenessAwareness The pure nature of existence; the power to be consciously conscious without an object or need. A fundamental property of the soul and true self; it is Kundalini as it folds and unfolds itself in existence. of that breath was enough to tune you in and make you go with those bad times and take it easy. In the good times, you always remember that there are bad times too and you always keep a balance that way.

(Student plays guitar and students sing, 'Thy will O Lord...')

(Students stop singing)

Student1: I was into Hatha yoga and meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. for a few years before I went into KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. . And I always loved doing Hatha Yoga and meditationMeditation Dhyan. It is a process of deep concentration or merger into an object or a state of consciousness. Meditation releases reactions and unconscious habits and build the spontaneous and intuitive link to awareness itself. . And friends of ours turned us onto KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. and it just seemed to be a very positive way of, of getting, of doing yoga. And, and it was just, it was so beautiful being with, living with lot people, that whole idea really turned me on, just living in an ashramAshram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. with people and eating good food and, and doing yoga with them and chanting. And, and the music too, there's so much music in, in, in 3HO, which is so, you know, so beautiful.

Purushotama: How do you relate to, to the fact that the KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. is a feminine force? Do you, do you feel and you are Adi Aad Shakti , Adi Shakti The primal creative force. ShaktiAad Shakti , Adi Shakti The primal creative force. Shakti The creative power and principle of existence itself. Without it nothing can manifest or bloom. It is feminine in nature. , do you feel that you are the, at the basis of the universe, do you feel something is special from that?

Student1: Oh yes, it really reinforces my whole concept of myself, it really help and this is really helping me to feel, you know, my true self, my true identity with the female force.

Purushotama: Do you think the men in the Hacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. ashramHacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. Ashram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. , do you feel some sort of deeper respect coming from them because they, because they worship KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. as a, as a feminine Goddess?

Student1: Oh yes, I have, I have never met in my whole life, men who have been so beautiful and kind and respectful and so nice and brotherly. They are just really good. And it's definitely an Aquarian thing, it's definitely, it's going to really pull in a lot of people in the future. And it's really now and it's, it's a very happening thing.

Purushotama: How about you? What happened to you?

Student (laughs): Yeah, that's what my parents keep asking me too. Well, I was going to school (?) and they started KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. yogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. classes and I just started going. And at first, I really didn't know why I was going. There was something in me that was saying, 'you have to go.' And sometimes, I didn't even want to go and I just had to, I had to keep going to classes and then when I met YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. JiJi Soul; used as an endearment or sign of respect. , I understood why I had to go. And everything really came together at that point.

Purushotama: But when you met him, what, what, precisely was it about that made you feel that divine necessity?

Student: He put me through the heaviest changes in ten days, that, he put me through more changes in ten days than I had gone through in twenty years, up to that point. And he just, he just sucked out all negativity that was in me and made me realize, who I was, made me work on myself, till I got to a point where I was able to see the parents in my life, I was able to see the foes and I was able to understand the cause and effect and see who I was and where I was going.

Purushotama: Do you have any brothers or sisters in your family that are interested in this? Do you, do you find it's hard to interest other people or, or aren't you interested in interesting other people?

Student: That was one, one of the hardest lessons that I had to learn when I became a teacher, was that this always felt so right for me, right from the beginning, I just knew, well, this is it, well, this is, this is what I have been looking for. And it took me a long time to, to realize that, maybe it wasn't what everyone else is looking for you know and there on everyone has their own path. And an important thing that all spiritual groups now have to learn is tolerance. The important thing that all of us have to learn is tolerance. And it's the role of a teacher is, just to be available and to allow the students to find him and the students will find him, if he has something to offer and someone needs that, that person will find him. And he shouldn't, he shouldn't run after the students, he should just be available and be humble and be willing to serve.

Purushotama: Do you feel strange being a full-fledged yoga teacher or, or, or, or do you, do you think that you (?) further to go to become qualified?

Student: Well, I don't think of myself as a teacher. Because whenever I think of myself as a teacher, everything falls apart. And I just understand, you know, it's like, look at us, here we have been doing yoga for two-three years, you know, who are we to teach yoga, who are we to teach consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , when we are not in that consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. . So, that's another lesson in humility. And, and before, before we teach a class, we chant a certain mantraMantra Sounds or words that tune or control the mind. Man means mind. Tra-ng is the wave or movement of the mind. Mantra is a wave, a repetition of sound and rhythm that directs or controls the mind. When you recite a mantra you have impact through the meridian points in the mouth, through its meaning, through its pattern of energy, through its rhythm, and through its naad - energetic shape in time. Recited correctly a mantra will activate areas of the nervous system and brain and allow you to shift your state and the perceptual vision or energetic ability associated with it. , which reminds us that we are not teaching and that teachings are flowing through us and that the same way the teaching flow through YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. JiJi Soul; used as an endearment or sign of respect. to us, the teachings are flowing through us to other people and...

Purushotama: What's that mantraMantra Sounds or words that tune or control the mind. Man means mind. Tra-ng is the wave or movement of the mind. Mantra is a wave, a repetition of sound and rhythm that directs or controls the mind. When you recite a mantra you have impact through the meridian points in the mouth, through its meaning, through its pattern of energy, through its rhythm, and through its naad - energetic shape in time. Recited correctly a mantra will activate areas of the nervous system and brain and allow you to shift your state and the perceptual vision or energetic ability associated with it. ? Can you chant it for us and give, give the meaning?

Student: MantraMantra Sounds or words that tune or control the mind. Man means mind. Tra-ng is the wave or movement of the mind. Mantra is a wave, a repetition of sound and rhythm that directs or controls the mind. When you recite a mantra you have impact through the meridian points in the mouth, through its meaning, through its pattern of energy, through its rhythm, and through its naad - energetic shape in time. Recited correctly a mantra will activate areas of the nervous system and brain and allow you to shift your state and the perceptual vision or energetic ability associated with it. is,

'Ong Namo GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. Dev Namo.'

It means, Ong is a creative force of the universe, Namo means I salute you, I bow to you and GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. Dev is that divine teacher, which was in every person and it's to remind the teacher that actually, the student is teaching himself in the process of the KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. yogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. class is to awaken the teacher within the student. So that, that, that teacher, which is one, which was in everyone, can teach that person. It's not the teacher that's teaching, it's higher consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. within the student that's teaching him.

And, when you, when you tune into that teacher, you find he's teaching you all the time, not just when you are in a yoga class. And that, this whole life and this whole earth is just a school and that it's a, the physical manifestation, since it happened to you or the way that his teacher teaches you, what you need to learn.

Everything, everything is a teacher. A tree is a teacher, a tree teaches you to stand firm and calm through the ages. A cloud teaches you how to flow through the scene unattached. A bird teaches you how to get up before the sun and chant.

Student (chants): 'Ong Namo GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. Dev Namo.'

(Student plays guitar and students sing, 'Thy will O Lord...')

(Students stop singing)

Purushotama: Do you hear that NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. , all the time going on inside you?

(Students laugh)

Student: You better say yes.

Student: No, I, I don't hear the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. going on all the time, although that's just the things, way things sound, you know, become more beautiful as your attitude becomes confirmed. And the sound current, which is the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. , is there all the time and the first stage of consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. in tuning into the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. is, whether you can consciously tune into it, when you set yourself to tune into it, you can tune into it and we can hear it.

Purushotama: Do you repeat it yourself?

Student: Well, the process of chanting is a way of tuning yourself to vibrate, so that the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. can come in your consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. more clearly. And when you chant the vibrations of SatSat Existence; what is; the subtle essence of Infinity itself. Sat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. Sat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. NamSat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. Naam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. , that Sa sound and that Aa sound is the sound of the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. , the sound current, which is always flowing it's that infinite vibration, which is always going.

Purushotama: After you chant, how long does, how long does it vibrate with you, before, before you go back to ordinary consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. ?

Student: Well, it's all ordinary consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. , it's just the sound is always there and from chanting the mantraMantra Sounds or words that tune or control the mind. Man means mind. Tra-ng is the wave or movement of the mind. Mantra is a wave, a repetition of sound and rhythm that directs or controls the mind. When you recite a mantra you have impact through the meridian points in the mouth, through its meaning, through its pattern of energy, through its rhythm, and through its naad - energetic shape in time. Recited correctly a mantra will activate areas of the nervous system and brain and allow you to shift your state and the perceptual vision or energetic ability associated with it. in the morning, that mantraMantra Sounds or words that tune or control the mind. Man means mind. Tra-ng is the wave or movement of the mind. Mantra is a wave, a repetition of sound and rhythm that directs or controls the mind. When you recite a mantra you have impact through the meridian points in the mouth, through its meaning, through its pattern of energy, through its rhythm, and through its naad - energetic shape in time. Recited correctly a mantra will activate areas of the nervous system and brain and allow you to shift your state and the perceptual vision or energetic ability associated with it. is in your consciousnessConsciousness The nature of the self and being. In the realm of nature, awareness becomes consciousness. It is from the being itself. Being is expressed in consciousness through contrasts and sensations, in awareness through merger, clarity, and reality. all day long. It's like we chant, 'Ek Ong Kar SatSat Existence; what is; the subtle essence of Infinity itself. Sat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. Sat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. NamSat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. Naam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. Siri Wahe Wahe Guru , Whaa-hay Guroo A mantra of ecstasy and dwelling in God. It is the Infinite teacher of the soul. Also called the gur mantra. GuruWahe Guru , Whaa-hay Guroo A mantra of ecstasy and dwelling in God. It is the Infinite teacher of the soul. Also called the gur mantra. Guru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. ,' in the morning and you kind of go through the day and everything is chanting along, you know, 'Ek Ong Kar,' walk down the street, 'SatSat Existence; what is; the subtle essence of Infinity itself. Sat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. Sat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. NamSat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. Naam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. ,' step off the kerb, 'Siri Wa' and step up on the other kerb, GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. you know. And it's a continual process, it's not something, which you sit down and do and get up and go do something else, you know.

Purushotama: WBAI in New York. So, what are you doing here?

Student3: I am sitting here playing some music, vibrating the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. .

Purushotama: Is, is anymore to life than that?

Student3: Anymore to life than that, sure there's, life is everything. Everything whatever you do is, living is part of life.

Purushotama: Do you have any goal in mind for your life?

Student3: To be a totally positive perhaps.

Purushotama: What do you mean by that?

Student3: Well, just not, not a producing any negative effects or negative habits, you know, trying to be in a, a really clear head all the time.

Purushotama: But, lot, there are lot of people who are clear head without practicing yoga or the NamNaam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. . What, what was the difference? What difference is there when you do?

Student3: Well, I, I imagine, you know, the path this, you know, many ray, many ways to reach the top of the mountain. You know, there are different paths for every person, you know, the people that are in KundaliniKundalini Comes from the word "kundal"; coiled energy; the creative potential of an individual. Kundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. YogaKundalini Yoga It is a Raaj Yoga that creates vitality in the body, balance in the mind, and openness to the spirit. It is used by the householder, busy in the world, to create immediate clarity. The fourth Guru in the Sikh tradition, Guru Ram Das, was acknowledged as the greatest Raaj Yogi. (See Raaj Yogi.) He opened this long secret tradition to all. are just, you know, people, it's in their destiny, you know, it's not choice, you just flow along into it.

Purushotama: So, you don't feel like you are something special, because you practice spiritual life?

Student3: Well, that's, that's just an ego trip, I think. If you, you know, I, I went through that myself, you know and then the more I think about it, you know, it's just, this is, you know, this is part of life, you know, it's a, you know, what we do is, what we do, it's a, it's, it's not special, this is not even different, it's just, it's just a regular thing. It's very normal actually. In fact that makes a lot of sense.

(Student plays guitar and students sing, 'Thy will O Lord...')

(Students stop singing)

Student4: And at this time we just started feeling that well, looks like YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan is the one for us. And we kept going to the Hacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. ashramHacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. Ashram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. . And we started thinking that may we get some people of (?) form and (?) the way it turned out is, nobody showed up and looked like we are going to have to spend another winter of complete seclusion. But he said, but he said, not for us. We are going to have to go where the energy is. And so, we just, we heard that YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. JiJi Soul; used as an endearment or sign of respect. was going to be in Brooklyn, so we just packed up all (?) close down the farm, zoomed into New York, heard the lecture and really got confirmed about the whole thing.

And then we estimated we can live in the Hacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. ashramHacienda de Guru Ram Das , The Ashram The grounds of Yogi Bhajan's traditional home and ranch in Espanola, NM, as well the surrounding businesses, gurdwara and langar hall. Ashram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. , the first reply was no, there's not enough room. So, we just hung around for a day and the next day Bagh Singh, the master who's the head of the GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. Guru Ram Das Fourth Guru of the Sikhs. Ram DasGuru Ram Das Fourth Guru of the Sikhs. ashramAshram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. , Brooklyn, he said, "Oh well, we'll squeeze you in some place."

And we stayed there and we have been there for the last two months and it's just been unbelievable changes, growing sense of bliss and happiness, things are just better than ever in our lives and (?) time, just realized that I am just one like everybody else, trying to be as pure a channel as I can be.

(Student plays guitar and students sing, 'Thy will O Lord...')

(Students stop singing)

(Student plays guitar and students sing, 'Happiness, happiness...')

(Students stop singing)

(Student plays guitar and students sing, 'Thy will O Lord...')

Purushotama (talks over the song): This is Purushotama again and you have been, 'In the spirit' with YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. Bhajan and his disciples and the natural joy of their music and chant.

The telephone number of YogiYogi One who has attained a state of yoga (union) where polarities are mastered and transcended. One who practices the disciplines of yoga and has attained self-mastery. JiJi Soul; used as an endearment or sign of respect. 's Brooklyn ashramAshram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. is #6248668.

If you know anyone who is deep in the drug scene and hurting, have them call #6248668.

If you know anyone, particularly a young person or a young couple, who's depressed, bored, alienated, freaked or strung out, get them into an experiment of their lives, by calling #6248668.

If you know anyone, who has high levels of energy and a strong sense of dedication, ask them to call #6248668.

There's a telephone number for everything in our intensely communicative society and this is really a telephone number, for personal courage, community, love and universal joy, #6248668.

Harmony is realized in this Brooklyn ashramAshram , Aashram A community of practitioners who come together to live conscious, mindful lives. , not through spiritual magic but through hard work. It may or may not be for you, but it's real, #6248668.

SatSat Existence; what is; the subtle essence of Infinity itself. Sat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. Sat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. NamSat Naam , Sat Nam The essence or seed embodied in form; the identity of truth. When used as a greeting it means "I greet and salute that reality and truth which is your soul." It is called the Bij Mantra - the seed for all that comes. Naam , Nam The manifested identity of the essence. The word derives from Naa-ay-ma , which means "that which is not, now is born." A Naam gives identity, form, and expression to that which was only essence or subtle before. It is also referred to as the Word. .

(Students stop singing)

YB: Well, if the word is your GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. and the guide, at least I have served you and shared you (?), that you have no question, who's the right GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. and who's the wrong GuruGuru That which takes us from ignorance to knowledge; from darkness, gu, to light, ru. It can be a person, a teaching, or in its most subtle form - the Word. , where to find it. Well, you can find it through a radio station. Thank you very much for this day. God be with you and bless you in your efforts.

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